tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post52332718223278708..comments2023-08-26T10:21:07.251-04:00Comments on Japers' Rink: Fighting In The NHL: A Compromise? Part DeuxJPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-86642445540704836372007-03-23T18:56:00.000-04:002007-03-23T18:56:00.000-04:00I think this debate has the wrong focus. Fighting...I think this debate has the wrong focus. Fighting doesn't hurt the game as much as idiotic acts by players that are well outside of the realm of what can be considered sport. <BR/><BR/>Fighting is sport. Boxing, UFC, Tae Kwon Do, wrestling, virtually every original olympic event was based on a skill needed in military combat. <BR/><BR/>In hockey, fighing is part of the sport. You can argue Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-43645129096948926492007-03-23T15:56:00.000-04:002007-03-23T15:56:00.000-04:00Sorry, still not buying it. Death by fighting: VO...Sorry, still not buying it. <BR/>Death by fighting: VOLUNTARY<BR/>Death by slapshot to neck or skate blade a la Clint Malarchuk: INVOLUNTARY.<BR/>It's only a matter of time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-71223763460621776072007-03-23T15:20:00.000-04:002007-03-23T15:20:00.000-04:00What's the joke? "I went to a boxing match last n...What's the joke? "I went to a boxing match last night and a hockey game broke out?" There's got to be a happy medium somewhere in all this. <BR/><BR/>I have no problems with teams keeping a Donald Brashear or Darcy Tucker (as much as I may dislike him). A "tough guy" who can actually play the game, pass, play defense, etc.<BR/><BR/>What there's no use for in the game are the Janssen's, Orr's, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-90623115708627474262007-03-23T14:53:00.000-04:002007-03-23T14:53:00.000-04:00... And J.P. rests his case.... And J.P. rests his case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-75941812081033266052007-03-23T14:44:00.000-04:002007-03-23T14:44:00.000-04:001) JP, hope you're not saying that attendance pro...1) JP, hope you're not saying that attendance problems stem from the fact that fighting is permissible?<BR/>2) Fighting was MUCH more prevalent in the 70/80's, yet attendance then was only an issue in a few select U.S. cities that housed bad teams. Where as now its a problem in some cities that have quality teams(Nashville, Carolina, N. J.)<BR/>3) Its probably not a politically correct position,FAUX RUMORShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403913043629362701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-67956166703113475702007-03-23T14:11:00.000-04:002007-03-23T14:11:00.000-04:00My point about the extremes is that each side in t...My point about the extremes is that each side in the debate seems to fail to see one half of what is perhaps the bigger point - that fighting <I>does</I> sell tickets and at the same time <I>does</I> hurt the League's reputation. Do something about it and you can address the latter without sacrificing the former.<BR/><BR/>Put another way, to answer Faux - when you look around at the stands JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-69878694801099425622007-03-23T13:54:00.000-04:002007-03-23T13:54:00.000-04:001) We wouldn't tell anyone else what 'kind of fan'...1) We wouldn't tell anyone else what 'kind of fan' they are based upon their fighting preference, or anything else for that matter<BR/>2) We will say that folks who want the complete abolishment of fighting are in the extreme minority. If the opposite were true, fighting would be gone already! <BR/>3) The owners know what sells. Don't think so? Look around the arena the next game you go to FAUX RUMORShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403913043629362701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-57257771614890339562007-03-23T13:48:00.001-04:002007-03-23T13:48:00.001-04:00Real hockey fans don't use emoticons.Real hockey fans don't use emoticons.CDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08629209752708945772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-2400063588291923552007-03-23T13:48:00.000-04:002007-03-23T13:48:00.000-04:00How about the pro-fighting extremists that say "if...How about the pro-fighting extremists that say "if you don't love fighting and want more of it in the game, your not a real hockey fan"?<BR/><BR/>Those guys need to learn about contractions.Abhinavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09829868560243905214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-82871536102702490182007-03-23T13:31:00.000-04:002007-03-23T13:31:00.000-04:00How about the pro-fighting extremists that say "if...How about the pro-fighting extremists that say "if you don't love fighting and want more of it in the game, your not a real hockey fan"? you might not make that argument, but alot of people on that side do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-62965164134158162582007-03-23T12:58:00.000-04:002007-03-23T12:58:00.000-04:001) Eliminating the instigator wouldn't necessarily...1) Eliminating the instigator wouldn't necessarily allow them to fight 'whenever they want', though wonder what would be the problem with that?<BR/>2) In years past if one 'started' a fight, they usually were assessed an additional 2 minute minor, hurting their team. We feel that's enough of a deterrent. Nothing extreme there.<BR/>3) An extreme position from 'No fighting' would be to a) Make FAUX RUMORShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403913043629362701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-75027805475995071062007-03-23T12:44:00.000-04:002007-03-23T12:44:00.000-04:001) Hey anonymous a slap shot to the throat could d...1) Hey anonymous a slap shot to the throat could do the same. Should they ban shot blocking too? Or just ban slap shots?<BR/>2) A careless body check could cripple someone. Should be eliminate body contact? That way no one will have a chance to get seriously hurt. ; )FAUX RUMORShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403913043629362701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-59123950702715285822007-03-23T12:42:00.000-04:002007-03-23T12:42:00.000-04:00"Get rid of the instigator" = "let these guys figh..."Get rid of the instigator" = "let these guys fight whenever they want" = the other extreme. Not surprising that you don't see your point of view as extreme - extremists rarley do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-59096979931415157352007-03-23T12:36:00.000-04:002007-03-23T12:36:00.000-04:001) Another good post on the subject. Just a questi...1) Another good post on the subject. Just a question though; What are the extremes on the fighting issue? On one side there are the anti-fighting folks. People who want no fighting at all. That is clear.<BR/>2) What is the other extreme? Haven't read anyone wanting a return of those bench clearing brawls of the 1970's. The 'pro-fighting' folks like ourselves, want fighting to remain a part of FAUX RUMORShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403913043629362701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-75859177829676235982007-03-23T12:35:00.000-04:002007-03-23T12:35:00.000-04:00How can you write the last sentence knowing full w...How can you write the last sentence knowing full well that one good punch and subsequent fall to the hard ice COULD cause us all to see someone die? It's only a matter of time, my friends.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-28274753647622095762007-03-23T11:51:00.000-04:002007-03-23T11:51:00.000-04:00A true hockey fan would not have needed to do a re...A true hockey fan would not have needed to do a re-cap post. A true hockey fan would have instead noted that "The Cutting Edge" was crap and that Rob Lowe has no place portraying himself as a pro after looking so pretty in "About Last Night." A super real hockey fan would have done an in-depth analysis on who would win in a game of the Simpsons vs. the kids from South Park. Plus, real hockey CDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08629209752708945772noreply@blogger.com