tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post1164626114391190090..comments2023-08-26T10:21:07.251-04:00Comments on Japers' Rink: Friday Roundup/Gamenight: 'Canes @ CapsJPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-61496422109228845372007-03-10T16:34:00.000-05:002007-03-10T16:34:00.000-05:00I saw that report. Maybe the League leaked it to ...I saw that report. Maybe the League leaked it to guage reaction (and I agree - not enough).<BR/><BR/>Btw, there's a link in the "What J.P.'s Reading" sidebar to a Kukla's post that is updating the situation and is probably the best source for legit current info on the issue.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-44883997735085050462007-03-10T16:31:00.000-05:002007-03-10T16:31:00.000-05:00The announcers for the Rangers game vs. Pitt was s...The announcers for the Rangers game vs. Pitt was saying that Simon is gettinng 15 + 7 more in the playoffs. Too little if true.Abhinavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09829868560243905214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-57104998355757763042007-03-10T11:12:00.000-05:002007-03-10T11:12:00.000-05:00My punishment? At a minimum, the remaining 15 gam...My punishment? At a minimum, the remaining 15 games of the season and the playoffs. Then, his return would be contingent upon a request for reinstatement to the league.<BR/><BR/>I'd be inclined to give him a year, but that's someone speaking in the fresh aftermath of the incident.The Peerlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10293195514553989436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-75187899835561319012007-03-09T14:00:00.000-05:002007-03-09T14:00:00.000-05:00Faux, that's amazingly ridiculous. A stick to the...Faux, that's amazingly ridiculous. A stick to the throat could shatter everything in there. As someone who has suffered from thyroid and other throat problems, I'm well aware of how delicate that stuff is.<BR/><BR/>If he had gotten hit in the throat, he would have needed an on-ice tracheotomy. Good freaking luck playing after that.<BR/><BR/>2 inches away. Send him to his house for the season Abhinavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09829868560243905214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-56175913561601310522007-03-09T12:21:00.000-05:002007-03-09T12:21:00.000-05:00Simon, and his once and current teammate Witt, are...Simon, and his once and current teammate Witt, are the king and prince of the stupid, badly timed penalty. Forget the egregious, CS nature of the hit but look at the timing... and it cost his team the game and valuable points.<BR/><BR/>Stupid is as stupid does...<BR/>McSorley never came back from his cheap shot, will Simon?Dave in DChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02329314584111456712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-45845685560972294972007-03-09T11:34:00.000-05:002007-03-09T11:34:00.000-05:00That's ridiculous, Faux. Simon used a weapon - th...That's ridiculous, Faux. Simon used a weapon - the other two guys used their bodies (albeit somewhat like weapons).JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-70508873740199847422007-03-09T11:31:00.000-05:002007-03-09T11:31:00.000-05:001) Should Simon be suspended? Ofcourse. No one is ...1) Should Simon be suspended? Ofcourse. No one is defending his actions, but the sillieness that he 'could have killed him' is beyond inane. Almost every check could concievably 'kill' someone<BR/>3) The Jansson check last week on Karbele could have killed him and he got 3 games. Neil's elbow of Drury could have killed him. And Karbele and Drury actually WERE injured!! Hollweg was NOT!<BR/>4) FAUXRUMORS 2https://www.blogger.com/profile/16787931383624127006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-87129429611346940842007-03-09T11:12:00.000-05:002007-03-09T11:12:00.000-05:00On a marginally-related note, did anyone catch the...On a marginally-related note, did anyone catch the end of regulation in the Pens-Devils game last night? The refs lost total control of that one, and it could have devolved into a similar situation pretty easily, it seemed.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-88483620942669477412007-03-09T11:06:00.000-05:002007-03-09T11:06:00.000-05:00Any player who chops another player with a stick i...Any player who chops another player with a stick in the face at this time of the season should get the rest of this season plus 28 more games (the max number of playoff games for any one team) that would be enforced this playoff season and the beginning of the next season. This equals approximately 1/2 of a season, and includes the most important games of the year, i.e. playoffs. The player Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-62785832829473319262007-03-09T10:53:00.000-05:002007-03-09T10:53:00.000-05:00I thought the initial hit was boarding, too.I'm a ...I thought the initial hit was boarding, too.<BR/><BR/>I'm a little late to the Caps as a fan, but that History 'o Hits clip reminded me why I don't share the Caps love of Dale Hunter. Big difference between a bruising player and a goon. After a season watching The Donald, I think we have an excellent example of how to walk that line.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00860690289635760478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-71350800158570381912007-03-09T10:04:00.000-05:002007-03-09T10:04:00.000-05:00JP,In answer to your question, in certain instance...JP,<BR/><BR/>In answer to your question, in certain instances, history would matter. But in something like this, no. <BR/><BR/>If Ovechkin or Crosby did the same thing, I'd be yelling just as loudly for an extended suspension. It's not like they're new to the game, they've never been hit before, etc. I can't believe that it wasn't drilled into them (everyone) at a young age to not swing your Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-12916787340227959222007-03-09T10:03:00.000-05:002007-03-09T10:03:00.000-05:001) While we agree that Simon is likely done its NO...1) While we agree that Simon is likely done its NOT because he deserves that much. It'll be a long suspension because of all the negative media hype surrounding this incident<BR/>2) For starters, Hollweg barely missed a shift. He should have been whistled himself for a 2 or 5 minute boarding major against Simon.<BR/>3) If fighting were allowed/encouraged as it should be(its rare in the final 5 FAUXRUMORS 2https://www.blogger.com/profile/16787931383624127006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-84072972732302544212007-03-09T09:46:00.000-05:002007-03-09T09:46:00.000-05:00My point about the "code" is that an enforcer like...My point about the "code" is that an enforcer like Si should always know better (of course theoretically everyone should), whereas if it was some little French winger who's not used to the rough stuff, maybe it's a little different. Likely not.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-10375619964946931432007-03-09T09:39:00.000-05:002007-03-09T09:39:00.000-05:00Nowhere in "the code" does it say anything about a...Nowhere in "the code" does it say anything about a two-handed stick chop to the head in response to a clean hit, be it on a skill player or goon. It doesn't matter. <BR/><BR/>Intent to injure is <B>never</B> excusable, whether a first act or as retaliation.<BR/><BR/>Simon, McSorely, and Bertuzzi should form a support group for undisciplined enforcers who cross the line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-20690344402754721692007-03-09T09:30:00.000-05:002007-03-09T09:30:00.000-05:00I'm torn.I like Simon as a player. He's an "enfor...I'm torn.<BR/><BR/>I like Simon as a player. He's an "enforcer", but also gets a few points, although I haven't followed him much this year, so I don't know if his points are still happening. (and I'm too lazy to check).<BR/><BR/>As much as I like Simon, I like the NHL far more, and if they continue to allow this type of incident, to go relatively unpunished, they are asking for trouble.<BR/><BRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-32362592770996981362007-03-09T09:19:00.000-05:002007-03-09T09:19:00.000-05:00So prior history is irrelevant in your mind? Same...So prior history is irrelevant in your mind? Same suspension for a multiple offender as for a guy with a clean slate? Punish the act and not the actor (or the result)?<BR/><BR/>I'm not disagreeing - just raising some of the questions that come out of an incident like this.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-42601742161867549302007-03-09T09:08:00.000-05:002007-03-09T09:08:00.000-05:00JP, Yes, it is just as deplorable. There's a HUGE...JP, <BR/><BR/>Yes, it is just as deplorable. There's a HUGE difference between running at someone and hitting him with your fists while holding your stick, and swinging your stick at him like a baseball bat. Heat of the moment and all that, but even within the "code" there are things such as you don't treat someone's head like a baseball on a tee, you don't try to kick anyone, etc.<BR/><BR/>AndAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-32135555215979648912007-03-09T08:41:00.000-05:002007-03-09T08:41:00.000-05:00Here's a follow-up question - is Simon's filth mad...Here's a follow-up question - is Simon's filth made any worse by the fact that he's a so-called enforcer who should live by the almighty "code"? If a finesse player gets hit like Simon did, pops up and takes a hack, is it as deplorable?JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-70904489548989965822007-03-09T08:34:00.000-05:002007-03-09T08:34:00.000-05:00*sigh*I remember when I loved that guy.Give him th...<I>*sigh*</I><BR/><BR/>I remember when I loved that guy.<BR/><BR/>Give him the rest of this season, the playoffs, and half of next season to think it over. Forward his paychecks to Hollweg during that time as well. <BR/><BR/>I wouldn't object to putting him in the stocks in front of MSG for a few days either. <BR/><BR/>I don't mind rough stuff, but it needs to be kept clean, and that was a long Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-34028984870747135362007-03-09T08:25:00.000-05:002007-03-09T08:25:00.000-05:00All valid points. What would your punishment be, ...All valid points. What would your punishment be, Peerless?<BR/><BR/>And here's your money Quote of the Day:<BR/><BR/>"I’ve always been known as a clean guy," Simon said.<BR/><BR/>He's been suspended, what, four or five times in his career before this for violence-related incidents (and once for dropping an N-bomb)?JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-79249378174801034272007-03-09T08:20:00.000-05:002007-03-09T08:20:00.000-05:00It is precisely that this is not in the legal aren...It is precisely that this is not in the legal arena (yet) that I think this incident is worse than the Bertuzzi-Moore incident. There are and should be legal remedies for this sort of thing (frankly, I think Bertuzzi got off lightly in that regard). In that realm, I think the effect and the context have different considerations -- Moore's injury (which effectively ended his career) and the The Peerlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10293195514553989436noreply@blogger.com