tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post8451569254422237844..comments2023-08-26T10:21:07.251-04:00Comments on Japers' Rink: Where's This Stuff In "The Code?"JPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-9262171091287678272008-10-23T14:20:00.000-04:002008-10-23T14:20:00.000-04:00Bravo. This isn't in the code because giving a 2 o...Bravo. This isn't in the code because giving a 2 on 1 sucker beating to somebody for a clean play is generally frowned upon. If anything, Bourque is the one who should have faced retaliation. Too bad Brashear was out that day. As much as I hate to say it, the closest discussion about stuff like this in the book is the Moore incident. He had a legal but iffy hit on Naslund, who was injured. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-37514138952696099782008-10-23T11:15:00.000-04:002008-10-23T11:15:00.000-04:00I agree with b.orr4 here -- football deals with th...I agree with b.orr4 here -- football deals with this better than hockey. I don't think it's just about a sense of what is fair game, though. I think the NFL is much clearer about what is a "clean hit", and are willing to eliminate dangerous hits like the horse collar tackle. <BR/><BR/>I don't think it's as clear what a 'clean hit' is in the NHL, when announcers defend blindsides or hits to the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-49441203625097603622008-10-23T10:20:00.000-04:002008-10-23T10:20:00.000-04:00True, JP. I'm probably in over my head on this on...True, JP. I'm probably in over my head on this one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-64445542647213777672008-10-23T08:44:00.000-04:002008-10-23T08:44:00.000-04:00May I suggest a solution to the madness... Better ...May I suggest a solution to the madness... Better power plays! If teams (like the Caps, for example) made these teams pay on the scoreboard when they do stupid crap, this stuff would stop. I also wonder, if the "new NHL" of calling every little penalty is in some way contributing to the passive/aggressive reaction to a "clean hit".<BR/>I'm just sayin...~Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17156269870324678164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-71331093622637303682008-10-23T07:30:00.000-04:002008-10-23T07:30:00.000-04:00@ Pepper: But it hasn't always been like this, and...@ Pepper: But it hasn't always been like this, and the game is no more or less about intimidation now than it was back before this silliness started. <BR/><BR/>@ TSFR: A player who crosses the line deserves to answer for his actions. Malkin should have been curb-stomped.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-50614209679547680222008-10-23T02:15:00.000-04:002008-10-23T02:15:00.000-04:00Tell ya what, the best retaliation in hockey is no...Tell ya what, the best retaliation in hockey is not gooning; it's goals and wins. As B.Orr did, I applauded the refs on their call on Bourque--enough of those 9 min PP's handed out that net 3-4 goals will nip this activity in the bud.<BR/><BR/>And besides, whatever happened to following the old maxim, "you have a whole career to exact your revenge on a big hit." I guess that's old school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-84230531844366807472008-10-23T00:13:00.000-04:002008-10-23T00:13:00.000-04:00Ross Bernstein's book "The Code:The Unwritten Rule...Ross Bernstein's book "The Code:The Unwritten Rules of Fighting and Retaliation in the NHL" is a must-read for anyone who wants to know more about the world of hockey fighting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-2792684908039906282008-10-23T00:00:00.000-04:002008-10-23T00:00:00.000-04:00I agree with you and Campbell. A clean hit is a c...I agree with you and Campbell. A clean hit is a clean hit, and should be retaliated with same. Somebody simply line up one of their guys at the next possible opportunity and run 'em.<BR/><BR/>I just don't think this is anything new. I clearly remember the McSorely on Gilmour hit in '93 was clean (Dougie had his head down) but it provoked a fight because he ran a star player near the end of theAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-30189347292697330412008-10-22T23:58:00.000-04:002008-10-22T23:58:00.000-04:00Laraque is a moron. No surprise there.@This space:...Laraque is a moron. No surprise there.<BR/><BR/>@This space:<BR/><BR/>I was. Just a thought.Hazardoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01275173220309296524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-76773028714051125432008-10-22T23:12:00.000-04:002008-10-22T23:12:00.000-04:00I'm not one to praise football over hockey, but th...I'm not one to praise football over hockey, but they have it right when it comes to hitting. Yeah, they go to absurd levels to protect the QB, but when someone crosses over the middle and is blown up by the safety, you never see teammates going after the guy who laid out the hit. They understand it's a contact sport and you take your chances when you venture into no man's land. I don't know when Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-12314562948702714862008-10-22T22:47:00.000-04:002008-10-22T22:47:00.000-04:00Well, let me ask you this, J.P. - did we think any...Well, let me ask you this, J.P. - did we think anyone should jump Malkin after a DIRTY and DANGEROUS hit? I don't recall hearing a lot of that. What I recall hearing was a lot of "where the hell was the ref's mind? 2 minute boarding for that is BS" (and it so totally was). <BR/><BR/>My point here is that I don't think that the question of whether we'd want our guys in a scrum after a clean hit isAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-51182037731620039712008-10-22T22:15:00.000-04:002008-10-22T22:15:00.000-04:00I don't know, J.P. I get the honor of the sport p...I don't know, J.P. I get the honor of the sport part. But the game is so much about intimidation.<BR/><BR/>When you're playing, you're always wanting the opponent thinking twice about standing in front of your net, whacking your goalie, chasing down the puck behind the net, and, well, laying out one of your teammates at center ice, wondering what might happen next.<BR/><BR/>Clean hit or not, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-60503148508397694252008-10-22T22:02:00.000-04:002008-10-22T22:02:00.000-04:00Well said; I just watched a sequence here in the O...Well said; I just watched a sequence here in the Oilers-Blackhawks tilt that had me thinking the same thing just before this post came through my RSS reader.<BR/><BR/>Vishnovkski (sp?) was carrying the puck in his own end, heading back into the corner, as a Chicago forward bore down on him. He then <I>turned his back on the player</I>, and his face toward the boards, as he flipped the puck on Dirk Hoaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03347911551821747694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-10289318110602326192008-10-22T21:52:00.000-04:002008-10-22T21:52:00.000-04:00*clap*clap*clap**clap*clap*clap*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com