tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post6444741427386561992..comments2023-08-26T10:21:07.251-04:00Comments on Japers' Rink: How Much Green For Green?JPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-18863639358603208942008-02-19T17:51:00.000-05:002008-02-19T17:51:00.000-05:00Good post, JP - as usual, excellent analysis - goo...Good post, JP - as usual, excellent analysis - good ideas from the others on MG too......<BR/><BR/>MG is Boudreau's guy and vice versa - I'm not sure other coaches would have given Green the same attention, confidence, and responsibility - I'm not saying the guy will sign for less to help the Caps' cap issues, but I'm not sure he's dieing to get out of DC either.<BR/><BR/>And whoever posted aboutAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-21386007088066228592008-02-19T11:10:00.000-05:002008-02-19T11:10:00.000-05:00Whether we sign him for $4.5mil or below (hopefull...Whether we sign him for $4.5mil or below (hopefully below - i'd like to see 3-3.75mil) or someone offers more as part of a RFA signing, its a win-win.<BR/><BR/>I'd like to see him stay, but 4 first rounders? yes please. no GM would be stupid enough to do that.......right..........??NShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16674174944735455991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-34433568488209622462008-02-19T00:27:00.000-05:002008-02-19T00:27:00.000-05:00There are two factors working AGAINST Mike Green t...There are two factors working AGAINST Mike Green this summer, and those factors are Jonathan Tavares and Victor Hedman.<BR/><BR/>Any team that makes an offer to an RFA like Green this summer might get him, but then they would have to give up their first round draft pick in 2009 along with several other picks.<BR/><BR/>No team plans on being out of the playoffs and in the lottery after making a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-25280042521082820152008-02-18T19:59:00.000-05:002008-02-18T19:59:00.000-05:00The question is though. Could green possibly be a...The question is though. <BR/>Could green possibly be a one year wonder?? <BR/>He is already starting to cool down somewhat. And while its obvious that he will be an effective NHL defensman maybe next year he only manages 5 goals and 20 assists. <BR/>This is in my opinion kind of a gamble. <BR/>I wouldn't be surprised to see a 2 year deal to see how the kid really pans out. <BR/>Hell i Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-47609110412467296312008-02-18T19:36:00.000-05:002008-02-18T19:36:00.000-05:00I'm wondering why the sign-and-trade hasn't gotten...I'm wondering why the sign-and-trade hasn't gotten traction in the NHL... some team could lock up Green to a $5M contract and trade away less than 4 1st round picks, but in players/prospects that are likely to help sooner than 2010-2011.<BR/><BR/>Is there some cap reason or rule prohibiting this? Or just that the teams that would want an RFA wouldn't want to part with their NHL-ready talent?<BR/meep_42https://www.blogger.com/profile/16551118003171851297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-70195158468432490622008-02-18T14:53:00.000-05:002008-02-18T14:53:00.000-05:00You think someone is going to give up four 1st rou...You think someone is going to give up four 1st rounders to pay Mike Green $5 mil per? And God Love Mike Green but what has he done but for 40 games in this league?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-64801011248091251592008-02-18T14:02:00.000-05:002008-02-18T14:02:00.000-05:001) have a feeling Green will ask for/get a tad mor...1) have a feeling Green will ask for/get a tad more than 5 mil. Would/should he take a home town discount? Probably not<BR/>2) Would he get at least that if he were to get an offer sheet this summer? Definitly. If Dustin Penner is worth 4.3 mil as a potential power forward Mike Green is worth 5.3 mil(Minimum) as a power play quarter back. On some/many nights he's the Caps second best FORWARD!FAUX RUMORShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403913043629362701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-35404710155412120022008-02-18T14:01:00.000-05:002008-02-18T14:01:00.000-05:00This is the hidden problem with rebuilding through...This is the hidden problem with rebuilding through the draft. You think you're avoiding overpaying by not pursuing UFAs, but you end up paying in the end. It's a good problem to have though, I'd much rather have Green than Souray.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-17525427210989237342008-02-18T13:30:00.000-05:002008-02-18T13:30:00.000-05:001) Compensatin for Green(RFA): To sign an RFA to a...1) Compensatin for Green(RFA): <BR/>To sign an RFA to a deal worth more than $4.8 million per year or more, it would cost four first-round picks. <BR/>2) That's stiff. But it's only one second round pick for salaries of $1.1 to $2.3 million, a first- and third-rounder for $2.3 to $3.5 million and a first, second and third rounder for $3.5 to $4.7 million. <BR/>3) The ladder is what Anaheim got FAUX RUMORShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403913043629362701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-80959376213239509092008-02-18T13:29:00.000-05:002008-02-18T13:29:00.000-05:00maybe we could get away with a 3 year deal and we'...maybe we could get away with a 3 year deal and we'd have a little better idea what he was capable of while still having two years in RFA status.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-5019502836647185022008-02-18T13:14:00.000-05:002008-02-18T13:14:00.000-05:00A couple of thoughts:1) I don't want the Caps to e...A couple of thoughts:<BR/><BR/>1) I don't want the Caps to end up like TB and have all their money tied up in 4-5 players. At some point, the cap numbers aren't going to rise as fast and we could be in a situation where we can't get the player we want because we don't have the cap space.<BR/><BR/>2) If it doesn't look like he can sign him, I would like to see GMGM trade Green and his rights to Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03704636724096381297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-45014171291684404962008-02-18T12:19:00.000-05:002008-02-18T12:19:00.000-05:00I think Tyutin's deal is nuts. This is a guy who o...I think Tyutin's deal is nuts. This is a guy who only gets 20:00 TOI about half the time, maybe a bit less than that even. So if I'm 26 I'm looking at that deal with glee.<BR/><BR/>I think your formulation of 52's numbers is about right. <BR/><BR/>But I'm a little unclear on this: How many No. 1s do the Caps get if they lose 52? Is it three or five? I get my leagues/CBAs mixed up.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14235054856583026039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-1644394264646656472008-02-18T12:14:00.000-05:002008-02-18T12:14:00.000-05:00I defin. think Green 4 years 4.5 is about right, ...I defin. think Green 4 years 4.5 is about right, however I am interested to see what happens with Morrisonn...we have seen the tons of attention he has gotten for his stable numbers and the support he gives Green...if pothier gets 2.5, doesn't Morrisonn at least get that?D.C One Timerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10238258580182159170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-11269152065729645122008-02-18T11:56:00.000-05:002008-02-18T11:56:00.000-05:00JP, I'm with you. If the Capitals can get Green f...JP, I'm with you. If the Capitals can get Green for 4-4.8 mil/year then they should do it (good call on the 4 years as well) but if someone wants to go nuts and offer him more, the organization might be better off to let him go and take the picks.<BR/><BR/>The issue to me isn't picks versus keeping the player, it's the money; you'd hate to see that Capitals have too much invested in only a few Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-7311130747338886612008-02-18T11:24:00.000-05:002008-02-18T11:24:00.000-05:00As you alluded to JP, the Caps have an interesting...As you alluded to JP, the Caps have an interesting salary structure. Next year they only have 7 players under contract, but they account for over $28 million. Of course they'll be rounded out easily by most the RFAs with modest raises on their current salaries, but it makes one wonder how far they'll be willing to go for Green.<BR/><BR/>It'll be interesting, that's for sure. I think Green Hooks Orpikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04043702689071051472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-86556898501579879802008-02-18T11:11:00.000-05:002008-02-18T11:11:00.000-05:00I don't expect to see us let Greenie walk, as he i...I don't expect to see us let Greenie walk, as he is really the cornerstone of the D corp of the future. I think it's clear after the Kevin Lowe tornado last year, it's better to overpay 25%, than over pay by 200% <I>(think Tomas Vanek)</I> when another team signs someone to an outrageous offer sheet.~Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17156269870324678164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-19056852247245860632008-02-18T11:10:00.000-05:002008-02-18T11:10:00.000-05:004 years/18 million seems realistic, but I have a b...4 years/18 million seems realistic, but I have a baaaaad feeling Greenie is gonna want more. Given our other non-Alex scoring options Green has a case to make that without him our offense is toast. If he makes it to the market, I think the Caps will be hard pressed to match the lucrative offers he'll get. I'd be shocked if he doesn't ask for a minimum $5 mil/per.Red Roverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15233795076874610127noreply@blogger.com