tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post1540332867145197100..comments2023-08-26T10:21:07.251-04:00Comments on Japers' Rink: 2007-08 Rink Wrap: Boyd GordonJPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-65565836610880322212008-05-07T23:37:00.000-04:002008-05-07T23:37:00.000-04:00I gave him a 6. He fills a pretty good niche, and...I gave him a 6. He fills a pretty good niche, and an RFA at 24 and relatively inexpensive I wouldn't be surprised if we tender him. I can also see a roster spot up for grabs...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-15241412305786276002008-05-07T19:53:00.000-04:002008-05-07T19:53:00.000-04:00What Tyler and Christopher said. I give the guy cr...What Tyler and Christopher said. I give the guy credit- he takes a beating out there and works hard, but stats aside, it often seems like he's not drawing penalties as much as he's just getting knocked around. He shines as a faceoff specialist or on the PK, but I wonder if Steckel isn't a more suitable guy for 5 on 5. Funny that Gordo was such a bright spot for us just a season ago...bill ballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17049734296066538766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-48486557861777258492008-05-07T19:50:00.001-04:002008-05-07T19:50:00.001-04:00There are no stupid questions, Kim, only stupid pe...There are no stupid questions, Kim, only stupid people.<BR/><BR/>Luckily, you're not one of 'em.<BR/><BR/>Muffins was a nickname <A HREF="http://peerlessprognosticator.blogspot.com/2007/02/blueberry-bran-or-boyd.html" REL="nofollow">coined by Peerless</A> after Gordo scored on a shot from the blueline against L.A. and Olie offered the following after the game:<BR/><BR/>"I keep razzing him about JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-86145029825958249182008-05-07T19:50:00.000-04:002008-05-07T19:50:00.000-04:00I gave him a 7, because of his defense not only on...I gave him a 7, because of his defense not only on the Even strength factor and also the PK. With the way this season ended, I think you take a serious look at the PK. A great PK makes up for bad calls.<BR/><BR/>Wasn't he one of the three on the 5 on 3 against pittsburgh (With Steckel and Morrisonn, no?)Whiter Magehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06862726277868219743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-19611715328881963112008-05-07T19:44:00.000-04:002008-05-07T19:44:00.000-04:00This may be a stupid question, but why do some cal...This may be a stupid question, but why do some call Gordon Muffins?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-54406711685815542892008-05-07T18:19:00.000-04:002008-05-07T18:19:00.000-04:00I rated Gordo pretty low, not because I don't appr...I rated Gordo pretty low, not because I don't appreciate his play (his positioning is superb and he's the best Cap at getting into passing lanes with his stick or skates). However, the expectations were higher for Gordo this year, and he didn't meet them. <BR/><BR/>In my mind (and there were lots of people on here and other blogs who agreed), he was supposed to score about 10 goals and maybe Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08672152902374464858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-37263938326825570742008-05-07T16:44:00.000-04:002008-05-07T16:44:00.000-04:001)faux, no one here was in doubt of his presence o...1)faux, no one here was in doubt of his presence on the team next year <BR/>2)that wasnt the question <BR/>3)merely what his role would be <BR/>4)but thanks anyway for clearing that one up too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-10065278844995139502008-05-07T14:05:00.000-04:002008-05-07T14:05:00.000-04:00Anytime, Rage.Anytime, Rage.FAUX RUMORShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403913043629362701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-8427405178216687372008-05-07T13:50:00.000-04:002008-05-07T13:50:00.000-04:00Oh. Okay.Thanks for clearing that up, Faux.Oh. Okay.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for clearing that up, Faux.Abhinavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09829868560243905214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-54007391442704353412008-05-07T13:17:00.000-04:002008-05-07T13:17:00.000-04:001) Rage: It was pretty clear what we think of Gord...1) Rage: It was pretty clear what we think of Gordon in our post, but no we don't believe like you that Gordon can compete with Ovechkin, Semin,etc for the team scoring leaders.FAUX RUMORShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403913043629362701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-23717639981354809622008-05-07T12:51:00.000-04:002008-05-07T12:51:00.000-04:00Also gave him a 6. He pretty much progressed and d...Also gave him a 6. He pretty much progressed and did what a checking line center is supposed to do. bumped him for his improvement in the FO circle. Probably worthy of a 6.5, maybe a 6.713.wittcap79https://www.blogger.com/profile/10097347415407289060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-15909204065613814042008-05-07T12:14:00.000-04:002008-05-07T12:14:00.000-04:00I'll never forget the time (Ithink it was the Back...I'll never forget the time (Ithink it was the Backis own-goal game against the Pens)Bouds called a timeout because Gordon was winded from killing a penalty and he needed to be fresh to take a critical faceoff.<BR/>Gordon is a character guy and you need character guys. Yeah, we're swimming in them but Gordo is beloved here and aint going nowhere. I gave him an 8, simply because he has not turned Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-24566662544272706852008-05-07T12:11:00.000-04:002008-05-07T12:11:00.000-04:00Boyd has poor vision and can't shoot. He might be...Boyd has poor vision and can't shoot. He might be an average stickhandler at best. Let's not kid ourselves here folks. 10 goals max is what you could ever expect.<BR/><BR/>That's why I gave him an 8, he did almost the best he could.<BR/><BR/>@marky narc: Ironic that to be considered for the Selke, there seems to be an unwritten goals/points minimum. Datsyuk Zetterberg are really the two best Red Roverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15233795076874610127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-58793931924918601162008-05-07T12:05:00.000-04:002008-05-07T12:05:00.000-04:00I don't see why Muffins couldn't pot, say, fifteen...I don't see why Muffins couldn't pot, say, fifteen goals. I honestly do thnk that at seven, he's not realizing his full potential offensively. On the other side of the puck, he is impeachable - and he ought to be a Selke trophy candidate!<BR/> <BR/>No, Muffins doesn't have to be centering AO's line and having a Chris Clark 30-goal breakout, but if he wants a higher rating from me (which is whatMarky Narchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15871871519628162877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-19788575765096116342008-05-07T11:25:00.000-04:002008-05-07T11:25:00.000-04:00Faux, what do you think? Is Gordon capable of win...Faux, what do you think? Is Gordon capable of winning any scoring races for us? I sort of think that he could put up 45 or 50 goals in a year, and maybe another 50 assists.Abhinavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09829868560243905214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-63749473582381922652008-05-07T10:46:00.000-04:002008-05-07T10:46:00.000-04:001) A decent 4th line center, good PK specialist. ...1) A decent 4th line center, good PK specialist. Still young enough that his offensive output could improve. <BR/>2) A reletively cheap option, so he'll be backFAUX RUMORShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403913043629362701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-18829033917763339412008-05-07T10:40:00.000-04:002008-05-07T10:40:00.000-04:00Kelly Miller disagrees. :-)Kelly Miller disagrees. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-15832596724616833722008-05-07T10:27:00.000-04:002008-05-07T10:27:00.000-04:00@tyler: See, I disagree that you need Boyd Gordons...@tyler: See, I disagree that you need Boyd Gordons. Gordon is very good on the PK, and very good on faceoffs... and that's it. He can't score (even 10 goals), and he doesn't hit. He starts to become the pure special teams player which on a roster of 21 guys you can't afford to have when you're building a SC winner. If Gordo were to pick up his checking, or his scoring, I'd say he's perfect. But ~Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17156269870324678164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-34308363205173909052008-05-07T10:14:00.000-04:002008-05-07T10:14:00.000-04:00I gave him an 8. He had as good a season as one c...I gave him an 8. He had as good a season as one could expect, minus offensive numbers. He might have offensive tricks in practice, but his offensive skill is lacking and that's OK.<BR/><BR/>The problem is he and Steckel are redundant at this point. Question is, who has more offensive upside between the two? Can we afford to keep them both?<BR/><BR/>Tough call, and I see us re-signing Gordon Red Roverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15233795076874610127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-46881858677920005862008-05-07T10:07:00.000-04:002008-05-07T10:07:00.000-04:00I think Gordy plays a really integral part on the ...I think Gordy plays a really integral part on the team -- i mean, look at how they did without him! He is one of their top face off people, good puck handler, and hey, just because he doesn't have the goals doesn't mean that he doesn't contribute. I have him an 8. He deserved it. I can see him going far with the capsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-77358185111089095502008-05-07T09:45:00.000-04:002008-05-07T09:45:00.000-04:00Boyd Gordon is Mike Grier (without ever having had...Boyd Gordon is Mike Grier (without ever having had a 16G season). <BR/><BR/>JP's stats on 15, his D and his PK are eye-opening. You NEED Boyd Gordons on a playoff team; complimentary players are huge. But you'd rather they be on your fourth line at even-strength, and that's where I think we'll see 15 next year. (And at a fourth-line price, too: $725Kish.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14235054856583026039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-22516391943515302008-05-07T09:24:00.000-04:002008-05-07T09:24:00.000-04:00I am a huge Muffins fan. He brings it every night...I am a huge Muffins fan. He brings it every night. Sometimes I watch only him for an entire shift just to see how hard he works his ass off. He is only 24? That kind of shocked me. He will only go up from here. I have a feeling he is every coach's dream for all he brings to the game and the locker room with his quiet demeanor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-82889695001126838892008-05-07T09:07:00.000-04:002008-05-07T09:07:00.000-04:00I graded him a 7 for his defense, but I wonder if ...I graded him a 7 for his defense, but I wonder if I had him too high. I seem to remember the thinking that he could be a 10-15 goal guy this year. (And weren't we looking for 50-60 from Pettinger-Gordon-Clark?) There's nothing wrong with being defense-oriented, but if you never make the other team play defense, then you're not as useful as you can be. (I'll probably put similar comments about Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-21546243104154196042008-05-07T08:28:00.000-04:002008-05-07T08:28:00.000-04:00Gordo's damn near my favorite player on the team, ...Gordo's damn near my favorite player on the team, but I gave him a "7." The low point totals are worrisome; his offense usually follows his defensive play a couple of seasons at each level. Some of its absence may be due to him being bounced all over the place, but he centered Pettinger and Clark at the beginning of the season and got zilch.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, his defensive play stepped Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14427229.post-84363461369901467282008-05-07T07:50:00.001-04:002008-05-07T07:50:00.001-04:00I couldn't give him more than a six. I knew he wa...I couldn't give him more than a six. I knew he was a good defensive center and he showed that. But his offense regressed a bit, and Steckel has probably passed him on the depth chart. <BR/><BR/>If 91 comes back, is 15 still a center? What kind of ice time does he get in that situation?<BR/><BR/>Don't get me wrong - he certainly has value. But that value is limited almost entirely to checking JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144581988817631208noreply@blogger.com